IMPORTANT: STATE OF PCW ADDRESS

[Stormm]

I created the logo in February of 2011, here is a link to that post I made on the forums: pcw05.proboards.com/thread/3866/next-gen-pcw

No other logos were used as inspiration when I created the original graphic.

I did design the logo, and either was a coincidence that the logo was re-created, or our's was ripped off and then copyright'd first.

Pacific Coast Wrestling's first use of their logo, according to the copyright, is 4/30/2015, and filed for their copyright last January.

When Luis came to me about this either earlier this year or last year sometime, given the "legitimacy" of the company, I figured they might have a copyright on their name or logo or something, and since we didn't (obviously, or they wouldn't have been able to file their's), suggested to leave it alone. Since we are not-for-profit, and a small fish in comparison, didn't figure they'd come after us.

This whole thing is just so fucked up, and I'm not at all happy about it, for several reasons!

[Dominator / Mortimer]

My two cents...

Change the name to PCWO. Pure Class Wrestling Organisation. Makes the 05 in the board address feasible and is a subtle enough change.

Oh, and hi! You'll be seeing more of me around soon.

[Andy D]

Jun 22, 2017 10:28:46 GMT -5 Stormm said:

I created the logo in February of 2011, here is a link to that post I made on the forums: pcw05.proboards.com/thread/3866/next-gen-pcw

No other logos were used as inspiration when I created the original graphic.

I did design the logo, and either was a coincidence that the logo was re-created, or our's was ripped off and then copyright'd first.

Pacific Coast Wrestling's first use of their logo, according to the copyright, is 4/30/2015, and filed for their copyright last January.

When Luis came to me about this either earlier this year or last year sometime, given the "legitimacy" of the company, I figured they might have a copyright on their name or logo or something, and since we didn't (obviously, or they wouldn't have been able to file their's), suggested to leave it alone. Since we are not-for-profit, and a small fish in comparison, didn't figure they'd come after us.

This whole thing is just so fucked up, and I'm not at all happy about it, for several reasons!

While the whole "don't have the money to fight this" still, unfortunately, applies to this whole thing - unless they, or somebody else, has a contract with your signature on it stating they now own the logo instead of you and you have no rights to it, I'm pretty sure you actually own the logo under Intellectual Property laws (you automatically own the copyright when you created the logo). If that logo hadn't been actually trademarked so long ago, you could have probably challenged it and won at the time without too much legal involvement. But much like everyone in this thread, I'm not actually a lawyer and I'm basing this all off having simply read up on these laws

Also I still say fuck em, they don't have the legal power to change us acronymed to "PCW" - just call us Pure Class Wrestling at the top and in the descriptions of the boards and we'll short hand it everywhere else we can. Also, we should probably get a domain back which can avoid the PCW05 url bit.


Edit: Also somebody may want to get the Twitter feed updated to remove the logo. Facebook too if it hasn't been done already... just to be on the safe side

[Stormm]

Jun 22, 2017 16:28:21 GMT -5 Andy D said:

Jun 22, 2017 10:28:46 GMT -5 Stormm said:

I created the logo in February of 2011, here is a link to that post I made on the forums: pcw05.proboards.com/thread/3866/next-gen-pcw

No other logos were used as inspiration when I created the original graphic.

I did design the logo, and either was a coincidence that the logo was re-created, or our's was ripped off and then copyright'd first.

Pacific Coast Wrestling's first use of their logo, according to the copyright, is 4/30/2015, and filed for their copyright last January.

When Luis came to me about this either earlier this year or last year sometime, given the "legitimacy" of the company, I figured they might have a copyright on their name or logo or something, and since we didn't (obviously, or they wouldn't have been able to file their's), suggested to leave it alone. Since we are not-for-profit, and a small fish in comparison, didn't figure they'd come after us.

This whole thing is just so fucked up, and I'm not at all happy about it, for several reasons!

While the whole "don't have the money to fight this" still, unfortunately, applies to this whole thing - unless they, or somebody else, has a contract with your signature on it stating they now own the logo instead of you and you have no rights to it, I'm pretty sure you actually own the logo under Intellectual Property laws (you automatically own the copyright when you created the logo). If that logo hadn't been actually trademarked so long ago, you could have probably challenged it and won at the time without too much legal involvement. But much like everyone in this thread, I'm not actually a lawyer and I'm basing this all off having simply read up on these laws

Also I still say fuck em, they don't have the legal power to change us acronymed to "PCW" - just call us Pure Class Wrestling at the top and in the descriptions of the boards and we'll short hand it everywhere else we can. Also, we should probably get a domain back which can avoid the PCW05 url bit.


Edit: Also somebody may want to get the Twitter feed updated to remove the logo. Facebook too if it hasn't been done already... just to be on the safe side

I've consulted a lawyer friend of mine, but he's not entirely sure I'd be able to fight without a stink at this point. He's busy enough as it is, though, without me trying to get free legal advice out of him, though, so it may take some time for him to get back to me with anything concrete.

The only positive in all this is... We had ours first!

[Rick Majors]

I'm with Andy. Don't change the name, just stop shortening it to PCW. Get a domain like PCwrestling.org or whatever and move on. They have no case against the name.

["The Asshole" Whitey Ford]

When I saw this thread I thought we were shutting down. Fuckit, change the name and rebrand. Start something new! Give the oil' girl a makeover and maybe breath new life into the place.

We could even storyline it with a new owner and everything. WCW: Whiteys Championship wrestling.

What a bunch of cunts though. We're just playing a game. I bet if WE wanted to be cunts we could point out that we're basically fan fiction and that is not illegal.

Also, our last show as PCW we should job their entire roster to brochamp.

[Kyle Shane]

We should have John Morrison and Rob Van Dam characters join the fed and just to be complete dicks have the absolute shit beaten out of them every week.

[Alexa Black]

Jun 23, 2017 0:49:59 GMT -5 Kyle Shane said:

We should have John Morrison and Rob Van Dam characters join the fed and just to be complete dicks have the absolute shit beaten out of them every week.

[A Ghost in the Wind]

Jun 23, 2017 1:37:59 GMT -5 Alexa Black said:

Jun 23, 2017 0:49:59 GMT -5 Kyle Shane said:

We should have John Morrison and Rob Van Dam characters join the fed and just to be complete dicks have the absolute shit beaten out of them every week.

I was in a fed in the past where they did things like this very well.

[Non Compos Mentis]

Was talking with Tom about this yesterday. He compared it to a school bully taking our lunch money.

No no no... this is Catholic School and they're the Priest.