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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 22:01:10 GMT -5
TL;DR.
Sorry, just kidding.
It all sounds ok to me...but just to make sure, a cross fed match would be like Austin Aries form TNA fighting against CM Punk from the WWE, with both federations staying independent but having the match as a special feature?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 22:02:46 GMT -5
That's absolutely correct.
Edit: Yeah, I was worried about tl;dr but wanted to show that I had my stuff together. Haha.
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Post by A Ghost in the Wind on Mar 1, 2013 22:03:19 GMT -5
...but just to make sure, a cross fed match would be like Austin Aries form TNA fighting against CM Punk from the WWE, with both federations staying independent but having the match as a special feature? Sounds about right to me.
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Post by πΏππ π»πππππππ π°ππ on Mar 1, 2013 22:29:15 GMT -5
I'll state, having spent some time there, that I'd be totally accepting of this. There wasn't a single person in SHOOT that I met that I didn't enjoy. It was a very welcoming place with a social climate that is very close to what PCW has.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 22:42:39 GMT -5
I'll state, having spent some time there, that I'd be totally accepting of this. There wasn't a single person in SHOOT that I met that I didn't enjoy. It was a very welcoming place with a social climate that is very close to what PCW has. We miss you, bro. <3 Hope everything is going smoothly for you. Oh, and just so you all know, the short last name, (TM), is pronounced "Miller Lite". We learned that in his welcome thread.
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Post by πΏππ π»πππππππ π°ππ on Mar 1, 2013 22:51:14 GMT -5
I'll state, having spent some time there, that I'd be totally accepting of this. There wasn't a single person in SHOOT that I met that I didn't enjoy. It was a very welcoming place with a social climate that is very close to what PCW has. We miss you, bro. <3 Hope everything is going smoothly for you. Oh, and just so you all know, the short last name, (TM), is pronounced "Miller Lite". We learned that in his welcome thread. He is correct on that, fun fact. <3
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Post by Eira on Mar 1, 2013 23:12:09 GMT -5
Given MONROE's stamp of approval, I voted for a "whatever". To be honest the entire first post read a little too much like a sale's pitch for comfort, but the actual comment interaction has been much more personable. ^_^ Could be fun, and if it's not, it's voluntary anyway.
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Post by πΏππ π»πππππππ π°ππ on Mar 1, 2013 23:25:32 GMT -5
The OOC atmosphere there is nearly identical to that of the one here in PCW. Everybody is very personable, friendly, loves to joke around, and Whitey isn't there, so it's possibly even better!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 1:54:08 GMT -5
The OOC atmosphere there is nearly identical to that of the one here in PCW. Everybody is very personable, friendly, loves to joke around, and Whitey isn't there, so it's possibly even better! Me being anywhere amplifies the awesomeness by about a million, so I fail to see your logic.
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Mar 2, 2013 8:48:03 GMT -5
I'm not going to vote, because I will most likely not participate as Saniti. Nothing against SHOOT. I'm having a difficult enough time learning my way around this fed, being fairly new and all. That's not to say I might not check it out and sign up as another one of my "staple" characters. Depends largely upon my time/ ability to keep up.
I will say this much though... I sincerely hope that this "interfed" thing doesn't go the same way as the one that went violently south in the other fed I'm in. *crosses fingers*
On edit: Bookmarked the site for future perusal.
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Post by Non Compos Mentis on Mar 2, 2013 8:52:12 GMT -5
I've got another question...
You mentioned that you have a big roster at the moment and are bringing in a new show to cope with it. With a bi-weekly show, does everybody get booked or are people left off the card?Here in PCW we have a smaller roster and generally try to get everybody into a match on every show and I'm just wondering if that's the same or different in SHOOT.
Oh, and when the new show is introduced will there be a Raw/Smackdown style roster split or will the whole roster be eligible for both shows?
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Post by Rick Majors on Mar 2, 2013 10:21:14 GMT -5
I thought about joining SHOOT (due to a reference from Tanya Black) before I signed up here. It seemed like a decent place, so I'd be cool with working with them.
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Post by A Ghost in the Wind on Mar 2, 2013 11:29:16 GMT -5
I'm not going to vote, because I will most likely not participate as Saniti. Nothing against SHOOT. I'm having a difficult enough time learning my way around this fed, being fairly new and all. That's not to say I might not check it out and sign up as another one of my "staple" characters. Depends largely upon my time/ ability to keep up. I will say this much though... I sincerely hope that this "interfed" thing doesn't go the same way as the one that went violently south in the other fed I'm in. *crosses fingers* On edit: Bookmarked the site for future perusal. You wouldn't HAVE to compete with anyone from SHOOT. No one would have to. And I think that's the biggest thing. It isn't so much as forcing issues between the two feds. I think all we're doing is opening up PCW canon to intermingle with SHOOT canon. We'd be opening up our universe to include them as factual entities. It's not much unlike what people do already when they bring their characters over and talk about their history from others feds. Example: PCW commentator Al Laiman ran the Hardcore Hell Wrestling promotion. That fed exists within the PCW realm. Someone else bringing up, say, NAWF...while we don't dismiss it outright, the accomplishments from there aren't as important because it's from a different 'efed dimension.' What I dislike about iFeds is that they usually make feds modify themselves so that they fit within the iFed's universe. What is being offered here, at least the way I see it, is that nothing changes in PCW except the fact we're aware of SHOOT, their talent, and their ongoing stuff...facts we can either promote or ignore. And the same can be said about SHOOT's promotion of PCW and/or their interaction (or lack thereof) of PCW activites. I don't see any harm in opening up our universe, as long as both feds actually gain from.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 13:39:31 GMT -5
What Luis said is 100% correct. I could never have said it better. You also have to remember that this isn't a SHOOT Project "thing". This is a PCW thing with SHOOT Project. We're not going to say that it's our way or the highway, that's immature and stupid. We want to know what you want in a relationship with us; that's why it's a relationship and not a dictatorship. If you don't want to work with us, that's absolutely fine, Saniti. I'm going to be sad because I love Disney, and especially Alice in Wonderland, and that Bohemian Rhapsody RP was fantastic to read. We will never insult you, or pressure you, or make you feel like you're not included in whatever it is that this relationship becomes just because you don't want to work with our handlers in anything. Again, don't think of what we're offering as a dictatorship, by any means. We as handlers get out of it what we give (cue 90s hit). You mentioned that you have a big roster at the moment and are bringing in a new show to cope with it. With a bi-weekly show, does everybody get booked or are people left off the card? Here in PCW we have a smaller roster and generally try to get everybody into a match on every show and I'm just wondering if that's the same or different in SHOOT. Oh, and when the new show is introduced will there be a Raw/Smackdown style roster split or will the whole roster be eligible for both shows? What we try to do in SHOOT Project is give the people that want to RP every show a match every show, and those that donβt necessarily have time, or their feud doesnβt really call for it, a break off if we need it. Our shows are anywhere from 5-7 matches long, so we work very hard to make sure as many people can be booked as possible, which should be made easier by the second show. When the new show is introduced, the whole roster will be eligible for both shows as yes, there's not going to be a brand split (because we hate them.) We're going to do the bookings such that everyone gets booked at the same time, for whichever show. Weβre also added at least one more title to accommodate the new show. We do have a few secondary/comedic characters that are show fillers, six or more tag teams and characters that arenβt even active wrestlers, but handled by people that have serious main card workers. We have only had one issue with not being booked, and thatβs exactly why we decided to make the move to two shows.
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Mar 2, 2013 13:49:01 GMT -5
Allow me to clarify, because I don't want to come across as hostile to this idea. I think it's wonderful. I do. I do. I'm just saying that, at least for now, I'm going to take an observer's approach. Now, once I've played around in your toyland a bit more, I may find a feud potential that interests me or whatever. Just for now, I want to stick with what I have until I get my feet a bit wetter here. I'll likely create a board name for over there under Saniti and check things out.
(Also, thank you for the kudos on my RP. It's greatly appreciated. I'll be sure to check out each character individually. I'm on vacation next week, so I'll have some down time to chill and kill.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 13:56:17 GMT -5
I didn't take it as hostile, just wanted to make sure you knew, from me, that what Luis was saying is what we at SHOOT Project stand behind. You brought up something that I think other people were contemplating, as well.
Remember, this isn't an "interfed". Think of it as more a chance for handlers to roleplay with new handlers, without having to leave the PCW or SHOOT Project umbrella or join a second fed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 14:53:13 GMT -5
Maybe this was already explained, but I couldn't find it.
In the event of a PCW vs Shoot exhibition, who grades the roleplays? I'm sure both places have different criteria.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 14:57:29 GMT -5
Maybe this was already explained, but I couldn't find it. In the event of a PCW vs Shoot exhibition, who grades the roleplays? I'm sure both places have different criteria. This could be something that both parties agree to change, and what follows is just what SHOOT Project prefers. Again, it's not always the right thing, always open for discussion. In the event of a cross-federation match, we want to have judges from both places and a discussion about the winner and why, that way it's entirely fair. Equal amount of judges. We're adults, so I don't think there would be an issue. If there's a clear cut winner, there's a clear cut winner. If there's not, it's a draw or a toss out, just like anywhere else. Angled matches are more than welcome on our end, too, but if you want to have a competitive match, make the moves to have it judged how you want it judged.
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Post by Non Compos Mentis on Mar 2, 2013 15:04:24 GMT -5
Maybe this was already explained, but I couldn't find it. In the event of a PCW vs Shoot exhibition, who grades the roleplays? I'm sure both places have different criteria. I'd assume the fed that's actually hosting the match. Like if a SHOOT wrestler was to make a special appearence in PCW it would be Luis doing the judging. And vise versa.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2013 15:12:36 GMT -5
Maybe this was already explained, but I couldn't find it. In the event of a PCW vs Shoot exhibition, who grades the roleplays? I'm sure both places have different criteria. I'd assume the fed that's actually hosting the match. Like if a SHOOT wrestler was to make a special appearence in PCW it would be Luis doing the judging. And vise versa. I want to touch on this, as this was one of the reasons why we left our last iFed. Single fed judging matches can cause people in SHOOT Project tension, even if it's a match with a PCW character on SHOOT Project TV. I'm in no way saying that Luis is a shady character, but our last iFed runner was, and the way that the match was judged and the reason given for a loss was extremely frustrating, so we're not fans of that way of judging. There's nothing to say that the people involved in the match can't have their own judging. There are no rules set in stone, everything is fluid and up to the handlers to work with. We're not controlling the show, PCW isn't controlling the show, the handlers are controlling the show. The reason I say this is while these matches do matter, of course, and affect canon, they don't affect strong fed story-lines, if that makes any sense at all. Probably not, I'm eating pie.
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