Interfed Nomination Offer

[A Ghost in the Wind]

Hey guys,

I was just offered a chance to be nominated for the interfed Championship Wrestling Counsil.

From what I understand, the only requirement from us would be for us to stay open. The perks of the deal are:

~CWC rankings (a top whatever list of wrestlers from the various feds)

~Advertisement of shows and news

~Potential marketplace for free agents (i.e. handlers looking for a new efed home)

....So, what do you think? Personally, I don't care either way. Although a fan in concept, I've never found a use for interfeds or fed listings (except for when I ran the Icemann Rankings Service over on Gfed). But, with me being less hands on these days, and the recruitment well starting to run a little dry due to lack of networking, I could see the positives that it could potentially have.

So yeah, what do you all think?! Even if we accept the bid to be nominated, we still might not be chosen, so don't get too emotionally invested. But yeah, what do you think?

[A Ghost in the Wind]

Actually, just looked at the rules page. Those aren't the specifics I was given, BUT, if those rules are indeed the rules, then I'd probably not want to join. I thought the interfed was more rankings and fed listings than a fed our fed has to take part in.

[kurtnoble]

Jan 9, 2012 22:43:41 GMT -5 A Ghost in the Wind said:

Actually, just looked at the rules page. Those aren't the specifics I was given, BUT, if those rules are indeed the rules, then I'd probably not want to join. I thought the interfed was more rankings and fed listings than a fed our fed has to take part in.

I didn't include that in the specifics because it's really not a set in stone aspect, from what I've seen. There are CWC feds that, to my knowledge, have never sent anyone to CWC shows. I think they encourage you to do so, but again, I've never seen a fed kicked out because they didn't actively participate in CWC events.

Their events are only once every few months by the way. It's not an every week, biweekly, or even monthly thing.

[Lantlas]

Anything that involves getting new faces in here couldn't hurt.

[Andy D]

I dont know if you wanted people's opinions along with thier votes, or if you want mine - but I'm giving it anyway, feel free to ignore

I like the idea on principle, I cannot be the only one feeling frustrated because they want to help bring new people in but dont know anybody anymore. Trying to get ourselves into a community like this could help get us more members. Then again, it may not bring in anything and we could end up forcing ourselves to be apart of this thing and getting nothing back.

From the rules, the way I read them is that doing anything in any CWC show is optional - we could have guys participate in every one of them or never show up once. The only mandatory parts i see were these rules

1) Post the CWC Button on your site prominantly
shouldnt be too hard

2) Mention CWC within your own shows
We have ad breaks in the Trauma shows, just a little generic advert needs to be written up and slotted in, should take care of that

3) Participate on the CWC Forums
I'm sure that some of the post whores would like another place to post

4) Post your shows regularly
Which we do anyway

5) Post your news as often as you would like
Reads as optional, we could do news every show or once a PPV... i guess this is where we would control how much advertisement we could give ourselves on the site

6) Ensure your forums are viewable by Guests (do not need to post)
For the most part, they are - all the shows are viewable by guests anyway, and really - that's all they need

7) Contribute one written match per CWC Show if needed
Now this one's the deal breaker to me. I dont know how well we're coping with match writing ourselves, but I'm going to guess we're just about coping. If needed is a very ambiguous statment - are they going to constantly turn around and ask us to write matches for them? what if we dont have any of our guys in CWC shows, would we still have to write matches for them if asked? Would we instantly get kicked out if we said, sorry, we're all busy?

Because of the last one i'm going to have to vote 'can't decide' for the moment, because personally i think thats something that could be a lot of work dumped on us for very little payback, and i think it needs clearing up what it could mean in real terms.

ok, opinions over - you can go back to ignoring me in general now

[Non Compos Mentis]

Jan 10, 2012 12:53:49 GMT -5 Andy D said:

3) Participate on the CWC Forums
I'm sure that some of the post whores would like another place to post

5) Post your news as often as you would like
Reads as optional, we could do news every show or once a PPV... i guess this is where we would control how much advertisement we could give ourselves on the site

7) Contribute one written match per CWC Show if needed
Now this one's the deal breaker to me. I dont know how well we're coping with match writing ourselves, but I'm going to guess we're just about coping. If needed is a very ambiguous statment - are they going to constantly turn around and ask us to write matches for them? what if we dont have any of our guys in CWC shows, would we still have to write matches for them if asked? Would we instantly get kicked out if we said, sorry, we're all busy?

For the first two there I'd say no problem. I could post-whore there easily and if needed I could take an unofficial role as the fed's representative there for posting news and anything else necessary.

As a match writer though, sure we're a bit rushed with matches here but if their shows are once every few months I'm sure myself, Hank or Tide could squeeze out one more for the occasion if asked.

[Mr. Showtime]

I agree with everything 2G said there. And at the end of the day if we join and do not like it we can just quit.

[Andy D]

Jan 10, 2012 13:19:40 GMT -5 Non Compos Mentis said:

As a match writer though, sure we're a bit rushed with matches here but if their shows are once every few months I'm sure myself, Hank or Tide could squeeze out one more for the occasion if asked.

Yeah, that's ok if your ok with it, but how much notice would you be given if they needed you to write a match? what would your focus be if the choice was between writing a match or rping here in pcw, and would they be accepting of that choice... and ultimatly, would they be asking us to write one match every show and is it fair of them to ask that if we dont have any wrestlers from here in said show?

I just see this as a way for them to make us do work for them, with only a chance of being able to recruit people.

I'm for this idea in general, I just dont like the idea of people unfairly dumping thier work on people who wouldnt profit from the work at all

[Lantlas]

I'll admit, as a novel-style RPer, I can't do one-off matches very well... With Lantlas, anyway. With Nacho, that's a completely different story, but he's my second RP. As seriously as I take him, I know which one is my best.

I also can write a match once in a great while, but I have to really be into the storyline and the characters. I'm not too good at it for unfamiliar ones.

I probably won't be participating in the forums though. Working full time, going to school full time, and having a life at home too, I can't take much more than the necessary participation here.

[Grimm]

I agree with 2Guys, too. As much as PCW has struggled with activity off and on lately (kinda, sorta) I don't think joining an interfed that requires RP'ing / match writing participation is a good idea. If they don't require any of us to do that sort of thing, sure, why not.

[Deleted]

I say we join up just to feel things out. Like Mikey said, if we don't like it we can always leave.

[Grimm]

Jan 10, 2012 20:03:03 GMT -5 @pureclassfan said:

I say we join up just to feel things out. Like Mikey said, if we don't like it we can always leave.

We'll have Sadistic post one of his 'I quit' messages.

[Stace Matthews]

I voted for it. A properly managed interfed can benefit a promotion. In the case of PCW, a properly managed promotion (if I may be so bold), the interfed will benefit as well.

A lot of the buzz is that the roster is stale and in turn the matches are repetitive. An interfed has the potential to allow a promotion to catch the interest of a whole new cycle of talent. Talent will come to PCW because it is top notch in booking, results, environment and, as I said before, proper management.

I also see this as a way to get individual recognition for those willing to reach up and grab the ring. There are so many creatively talented writers and overall decency amongst handlers and it's time others in this hobby recognize it. The characters of PCW are well-polished and the role-plays are competitive full circle, from a storytelling point-of-view and, for the most part, grammatically.

Most of all, and what I hope is protected, PCW is fun. I mentioned the "environment" earlier. We all have fun writing these stories together. The only negative to an interfed, in my experience, is they can kill the "fun" of a healthy promotion. If this is the next step for PCW, we have to continue to make it an enjoyable experience for all.

My nickel.

[High Tide]

Jan 10, 2012 20:03:03 GMT -5 @pureclassfan said:

I say we join up just to feel things out. Like Mikey said, if we don't like it we can always leave.

This about sums my opinion up

[kurtnoble]

I do want to hit one point made:

7) Contribute one written match per CWC Show if needed
Now this one's the deal breaker to me. I dont know how well we're coping with match writing ourselves, but I'm going to guess we're just about coping. If needed is a very ambiguous statment - are they going to constantly turn around and ask us to write matches for them? what if we dont have any of our guys in CWC shows, would we still have to write matches for them if asked? Would we instantly get kicked out if we said, sorry, we're all busy?

To my knowledge, this has never happened. There's staff that write matches, but the rest is voluntary. I actually wrote a match for their last show...but I volunteered. It wasn't dumped on me or APW, I simply told them that I would help out. I can ask APW's fedhead if that's ever happened, but I don't believe it has.

[Andy D]

If that's the case kurt, then there is no reason we shouldn't give this a shot. I was only speculating given the wording of that condition that they could basically keep asking us to write matches for them, which would be unfair if we werent taking part in the 'fed' otherwise. I'm not saying none of our guys wouldn't participate or even that none of our mules would never volunteer to write matches, I just think that if we didn't and they still expected us to hand in a match, it would be unfair.

But if that's not what they're like - great, why not try the place then

[Non Compos Mentis]

So, when do we find out if we're in or not?

[kurtnoble]

Jan 12, 2012 11:03:04 GMT -5 Non Compos Mentis said:

So, when do we find out if we're in or not?

I'm waiting for Luis's final verdict, and then he has to just fill out a brief info sheet I'll then send in. Then, just have to wait.

[Non Compos Mentis]

If we're going purely on the poll (which I'm assuming was the point of posting it) I'd say it looks like the decision is made. 9 yays to 1 nay and 4 unsures is pretty decisive I reckon.

[Mr. Showtime]

Jan 12, 2012 14:39:22 GMT -5 @kurtnoble said:

Jan 12, 2012 11:03:04 GMT -5 Non Compos Mentis said:

So, when do we find out if we're in or not?

I'm waiting for Luis's final verdict, and then he has to just fill out a brief info sheet I'll then send in. Then, just have to wait.

Wait we have to fill out a brief form? That was never in the rules, I say we balk on this idea...