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Post by Loki on Jun 2, 2017 20:51:06 GMT -5
So in an effort to increase not only show feedback but RP feedback as well Dan and I have been mulling around the idea of a point system complete with rewards for providing said feedback. What kind of rewards? I'll get to that in a minute you impatient bastards! This would be a point system that is completely separate from RP scores and would not affect match outcomes. Points would be tallied and collected by Dan and myself and kept private, though people can always send a request for their point totals.
The actual point system would be laid out as follows:
1 point per Roleplay reviewed and feedback provided for. Not this has to be actual well thought out and coherent feedback. No posting "I LIEK DIS ARPEE!" and getting points for it.
5-10 points per show reviewed. Much like above, this has to be well thought out and constructive feedback. To earn the maximum points you would need to review the segments as well as the matches.
1 point for posting first. This would replace the old .5 bonus that was being awarded for posting first.
1 point for posting before the final day. This one is self explanatory.
So I talked about rewards earlier? And what kind of rewards can we offer in an efed? The only kind that matter in an efed, championship feud opportunities. They reward system breaks down as follows.
100 points - Underground Title Feud
200 points - International/North American (whichever survives the pay per view) feud
350 points - World Championship fued
So in order to cash in your points you would just send me or Dan (mostly me) a request to cash in for whichever prize you wanted provided you had the points. That would place you next in line for the title shot. Now in the case of multiple requests we would prioritize them in the order they were received. There would also be rules in place to prohibit cashing in more than once per day or cashing in for multiple titles.
In the event that the person who cashed in won the title, the former title holder would get their rematch before the queue continued. Also if person A were to come up the points required to cash in for another title shot, they would be placed at the back of the line and not be allowed to jump cut.
I'm sure I'm forgetting a shit ton of stuff but I'm hoping you people ask questions. So ask away. We're looking to roll this system out after the PPV.
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Post by Non Compos Mentis on Jun 3, 2017 8:26:32 GMT -5
So, for example, I accumulated 100 points and requested a cash in for the Underground title feud. Does that mean I exhaust my 100 points and start again from 0?
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Jun 3, 2017 8:32:13 GMT -5
I would say yes. They spend like money.
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Post by Loki on Jun 3, 2017 12:23:00 GMT -5
So, for example, I accumulated 100 points and requested a cash in for the Underground title feud. Does that mean I exhaust my 100 points and start again from 0? Yes, it's an exchange, your points for the feud. So at that point you would be back to 0 points.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 4, 2017 0:24:16 GMT -5
Good idea! The only problem I can see immediately is judging the quality of the feedback. Writers who are less talented than others may try very hard to leave decent feedback but it could fall short due to grammar/spelling/general thought. I.E., if Seromine were to leave his classic awesome feedback, but Brochamp leaves feedback that is addressing each match and decent enough input...would they both be graded the same when it comes to points? Otherwise, I really like this idea. Well done guys.
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Post by Loki on Jun 4, 2017 0:48:32 GMT -5
It has less to do with grammar and spelling than content. You could 1334 the whole thing and as long as you you put actual effort into it you'll still get points. That said, I'd appreciate no leet speak.
If Buck Brochamp decided to Brochamp it up, so long as he left actual in depth feedback he'd get points. But I would take it as a kindness if people did not involve their joke characters.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 4, 2017 1:52:10 GMT -5
I said "Good idea." Jesus Christ Tom, get off my nuts.
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Post by Grimm on Jun 4, 2017 6:51:41 GMT -5
If Buck Brochamp decided to Brochamp it up, so long as he left actual in depth feedback he'd get points. But I would take it as a kindness if people did not involve their joke characters. If Buck Brochamp cashed in points for a shot at a title that Grimm held at the time, there's a chance I'd have to be talked out of throwing the match. But in all honesty, if we do adopt this system I hope this is what happens...folks who normally aren't part of any particular title scene getting to leapfrog ahead and taking full advantage of their opportunity. That would be fun.
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Jun 4, 2017 7:05:04 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned, people will get 5 points for minimum effort show feedback and 10 for at least "trying."
As to Grimm's concern, I agree. I think thisbwill help propel people who dont normally get a chance at a title. Even Razor Blade could EARN a title shot.
It also helps those in management determine who will be trying for which titles. We'll keep doing it the old-fashioned way until then.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 4, 2017 10:58:40 GMT -5
Once this is in full swing and there is a que of people waiting for their shot...does that mean someone who DOESN'T give feedback will never get a shot?
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Post by Loki on Jun 4, 2017 11:48:04 GMT -5
It technically could, however we'll continue to make plans so that it's not just people doing feedback.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 4, 2017 11:53:22 GMT -5
You fucking better. I want my title shots. I mean, I'll start giving feedback.
But that's good. As I said I'm all for anything that gets people to give more feedback and whatnot, but it'd be a shame if a really good writer who had a very busy schedule never got a shot because he couldn't do the feedback part.
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Jun 5, 2017 12:08:38 GMT -5
It's going to take a while (10 months, maybe slightly less) for ANYONE to have enough point even for the UG title, so we'll still be pushing people by merit as well.
Also, upon reading the original part a bit more in detail, I don't know how I feel about keeping their tallies hidden. I think that should be public, hell, even a bragging right IMO. I'll concede to what everyone else feels about that particular point though. I dunno if there's a WAY we could display them or not.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 5, 2017 13:02:22 GMT -5
Keeping it hidden adds an element of surprise on the shows for when someone cashes their points in to start the build. Just my two lincolns.
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Post by Loki on Jun 5, 2017 13:07:57 GMT -5
Keeping it hidden adds an element of surprise on the shows for when someone cashes their points in to start the build. Just my two lincolns. ^this This was my reasoning for keeping it private.
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Jun 5, 2017 13:19:09 GMT -5
Okay. I can see the merits in that then.
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Post by Non Compos Mentis on Jun 5, 2017 14:44:21 GMT -5
I see the merits in both. Though to be honest it may become apparent who are leading the pack just seeing who posts the most.
Personally I'd lean toward keeping them open for all to see. Even IF someone has enough for an Underground or an NA/IN title feud it's no guarantee they aren't holding on for the World, if anything it adds another edge of tension for the champions at the time. You always have to be ready for someone to call that shot, even if it never comes.
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Post by Grimm on Jun 5, 2017 14:56:16 GMT -5
There's also the possibility that someone could really rack up the points only to never cash them in, if for no other reason than to make champions nervous out of spite.
"Be a shame if I came after your merged IN / NA title...ha ha ha, psyche!"
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Post by Non Compos Mentis on Jun 6, 2017 10:20:48 GMT -5
I had a thought that maybe this could be expanded to some thing akin to a Harry Potter 'house points' system. Like not just feedback but general contribution to the fed.
You wrote a match? 1 point to you. You made a PPV banner? 1 point to you. You recruited a new member who has participates in 5 shows? 1 point to you.
Etc etc. Commitment and contribution accroas the board earns points.
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Post by Nathan Saniti on Jun 6, 2017 11:52:14 GMT -5
I had a thought that maybe this could be expanded to some thing akin to a Harry Potter 'house points' system. Like not just feedback but general contribution to the fed. You wrote a match? 1 point to you. You made a PPV banner? 1 point to you. You recruited a new member who has participates in 5 shows? 1 point to you. Etc etc. Commitment and contribution accroas the board earns points. I like that idea, though I think the rewards for that should be a bit more, mostly because those take a considerable effort. For instance: You wrote a match? 2 points to you. You made a PPV banner? 5 points to you. You recruited a new member who has participates in 5 shows? 10 points to you. I also has an afterthought of my own. If MANAGEMENT give someone a title shot that they didn't specifically ASK for, that doesn't count against their points.
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