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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 1, 2017 23:04:47 GMT -5
Completely agree with you. I thought Nia had momentum going. Now she's MIA. That's inexcusable. Her tweet about creative was spot on.
Alicia Fox sucks. So does the crap she's doing with Noam Dar. And Tamina...no comment LOL. Ik she's Snuka's daughter, but she didn't inherit his skill.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 2, 2017 12:11:05 GMT -5
So, I read this weeks RAW had the second lowest rating in the history of the show. If anyone is into those sorts of things.
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Post by Loki on Jun 2, 2017 12:43:19 GMT -5
Yeah, RAW is struggling in almost every aspect. The one thing I think they're doing better than Smackdown is their tag team scene, but even then they're revolving the whole thing around the Hardy Men and Shamsaro. I know Revival is still out injured and Enzo and Cass have that who dunnit story going, beyond those two, who else is even in the RAW tag scene?
Shit....maybe they're not better at it than Smackdown.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 2, 2017 18:09:02 GMT -5
Hahaha yeah. I'm really surprised that Sheamus and Cesaro have got zilch on the Hardyz. I don't expect that to change come Sunday.
But then what? I'll assume The Revival take the belts at Summerslam. But then as you pointed out, who else do they have?? Anderson and Gallows are back to no man's land. Enzo and Cass are in the mystery angle. Golden Truth has split.
Fuck. Is that it? What an embarrassment. This would have never happened in the old days. Every title MEANT something. SD, I'm still pissed at the use of AA. New Day v Usos does NOTHING for me. Thankfully we have Breezango. Ascension are jobbers. Colons are irrelevant.
Both shows equally suck on the tag scene. But SD has the better product overall.
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Post by Loki on Jun 2, 2017 18:29:26 GMT -5
Honestly, upon further review I think Shamsaro takes it this weekend. Otherwise what the actual fuck did they turn heel for? Not that WWE has ever needed a reason to go and do something, but I honestly think the heel turn is a sign of change for the tag division.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 2, 2017 18:48:59 GMT -5
Ehhh...maybe? I could SEE the switch. Then 50/50 booking (a WWE staple) leading to...and I can't believe this is an actual PPV name...Great Balls of Fire, for the final match.
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Post by Loki on Jun 2, 2017 20:52:25 GMT -5
50/50 booking is a complete shit stain. Also, I hope somebody got fired for that name.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 2, 2017 21:29:18 GMT -5
It sure is. I can't believe someone thought it sounded good. Good luck to them promoting it while trying to be serious. Hopefully someone shoots on the name.
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Post by Kyle Shane on Jun 4, 2017 19:03:36 GMT -5
Is it me or has Sheamus/Caesaro felt like absolutely no threat to the Hardy Boys tho? Even with the heel turn and beating them down. Raw shitty booking has o r member of the team facing either Matt or Jeff in a singles match every goddamn week since Wrestlemania and they've pretty much lost cleanly every damn time. There's 50/50 booking and them there's making the heel contenders look like absolute chumps.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 4, 2017 19:15:15 GMT -5
I totally agree with you. Creative is being so fucking lazy right now, that they are just rehashing non stop or throwing shit at the wall and hoping it buys them time until Summerslam. What you just described about Sheamus and Cesaro also could apply to Dolph Ziggler. If they aren't going to bother making them a credible threat to whoever, WHY turn them?? Loss after loss after loss negates the whole point of getting a fresh start and new direction.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 5, 2017 1:35:00 GMT -5
Wait. Bayley got some BOOS? Way to fucking go, (un)creative. I'll assume it was because of the forced Wonder Woman line. The report also made it sound like she got squashed and never used the cane. Any truth to it?
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Post by Kyle Shane on Jun 5, 2017 2:31:42 GMT -5
She got the cane first, then like a friggin idiot, refused or hesitated to use it. What it amounted to, was basically them teasing it out for five minutes into an extended squash match. Which Bayley did get a Bayley to belly, woo, but when she got the stick she wasted time "Will she/wont' she" which makes absolutely no sense given her pre-match promo talking about using the cane like Sandman and Tommy Dreamer and then Alexa waffled her with it three times and hit a DDT for an easy win.
Yeah. It was bad. On several levels.
From a character standpoint Bayley as a character has been sunk. Raw's writers ignored her arc from NXT and she's just presented as an annoyingly naive little sister. The entire come up for her was that she was a superfan that overcame her inhibitions and earned the respect of legit athletes like Charlotte and Sasha. The Bayley on Raw is a complete moron and back at square one for her character or worse.
And Alexa, while she can be a great talker, has shown with this feud with Bayley that she's by far not the best wrestler. I'd even say if not for her look she'd still be in developmental.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 5, 2017 2:48:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the confirmation. I read two reports and one made it sound like Bayley got some cane offense in, while the other made it sound like a squash. Jesus christ the writers...fuck.
What really, really pisses me off is how molten over Bayley was in NXT. Gets called up and for the early stages, was carried over. But booking and speech material have drained away what made her special.
The crap from the PPV makes her look like an idiot who backed up EXACTLY what Alexa said. If Bayley was to lose anyway, why not give her the PAYOFF of beating Alexa's ass with the damn weapon?! It also renders her promo pointless because she never hit her. They would have tee'd off.
Now because creative is clueless, they have no credible face challenger. Maybe Nia will turn. An equally stupid decision in a company full of them while shitting the ratings bed.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 5, 2017 11:02:17 GMT -5
What about Samoa Joe vs Lesnar, eh!?!
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 5, 2017 11:06:46 GMT -5
What about Samoa Joe vs Lesnar, eh!?! it looks good on paper. How much offense Joe gets in before getting wrecked is TBD. lol. But Joe-Heyman on the mic will be good.
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Post by Loki on Jun 5, 2017 13:10:34 GMT -5
Given the buzz about the Joe vs. Lesnar dream match, I'm hoping that WWE doesn't bollux this up and make it into a squash. Let these guys have the barnstormer we all know they can put on.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 5, 2017 20:12:46 GMT -5
That Samoa Joe seg was brilliant.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 6, 2017 12:56:40 GMT -5
Just sitting down to watch RAW. Dunno if I can finish it, but I'll finish it later tonight when I do some more RP feedback!
Roman Reigns vs. Bray Wyatt...y'know, as often as this match has happened, this reiteration of it was actually enjoyable. I was HOPING Wyatt would get the win but at least he looked really good. Still holding out for a Wyatt push but I think he's just too valuable as a jobber who can put on a really good performance. It's too bad.
Enzo and Cass' segment was funny. Admittedly, I've never really seen Enzo talk before, just read and heard about it. I like the guy! He has a goofy charisma about him. When Cass said he'd "Have his back from now on" then Enzo turns to flirt with the interviewer and he leaves. "WHAT WAS THAT! I turn my back for like, 10 seconds and you're gone!" I'm looking forward to their match tonight.
Random thought as the Ambrose/Sampson match is starting: what happened to Jerry Lawler? Did his health keep him off TV for good? Back on track, I'm really liking the prospect of this pairup! I think their styles will help them both immensely. I laughed really hard during the Angle/Ambrose backstage bit. Ambrose is good; REALLY good.
Wow, Seromine wasn't kidding. The Samoa Joe promo was awesome! (Even when he had to make Great Balls of Fire not sound comical.) When Heyman came out and praised Joe's accomplishment, I was instantly skeptical for several reasons...but that's just Paul Heyman. Where was he going with that? "The fact that Brock Lesnar doesn't fear you...I think that's exactly what you're looking for." This is building up to something really interesting...Joe said he wanted Heyman as a manager, then Heyman said that Joe is going to hurt Lesnar...what if this is it? What if Heyman and Joe team up!? That'd be great, we'd see more of Heyman.
BUT, then Joe pushes Heyman into the corner and whispers threats into his ear! Wow. This could be a very, very good feud.
The Miz Celebration was pretty good too. The only way I'd really care to see them fight again though is if Ambrose lost and he could feud with Elias Sampson.
That's it for now! I'll finish up in 10 hours after work.
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Post by The Anarchist on Jun 8, 2017 0:20:09 GMT -5
This will come as no surprise. Rumor has it the text message stuff may be a way to bring not only Stephanie back, but Triple H as well. Because that's exactly what RAW needs, instead of the awesome job Kurt Angle has been doing. Smfh.
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Post by "The Asshole" Whitey Ford on Jun 8, 2017 1:12:47 GMT -5
Eh. I like Triple H, so I'm ok with it. Kurt hasn't done anything too stellar, but he's a breath of fresh air I suppose.
Catching up on Smackdown now. The only notable thing I have to say so far is the segment with New Day and Fashion Police was really good. I dunno man, I remember hearing someone say they didn't understand the humor behind it and that's just silly to me. It's simple and hilarious.
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